Coral Magazine...Taking shots at reefcentral?

#21
Blaming Reef Central like it's some gaint evil corporation out to ruin our oceans and your life, it's getting pretty old. People have taken their issues with how their posts are moderated to extreme levels of pettyness. It's a message board not unlike any the other hobbiest message boards out there. How a message board filled with hobbiests who in the majority have good intentions can be tied to the raping of our oceans, well you have to be a special kind of nut to make that connection.
 

dv3

Beluga
M.A.S.C Club Member
#22
WrasseAttack;111142 said:
Blaming Reef Central like it's some gaint evil corporation out to ruin our oceans and your life, it's getting pretty old. People have taken their issues with how their posts are moderated to extreme levels of pettyness. It's a message board not unlike any the other hobbiest message boards out there. How a message board filled with hobbiests who in the majority have good intentions can be tied to the raping of our oceans, well you have to be a special kind of nut to make that connection.
oh no not the rape word again ...lol
 
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120greefman

Guest
#25
boring.....................
I believe more reefs are destroyed from fishing and oil spills than from hobbyists.
 
#26
This is the writing of a liberal green party, which is to make up your facts on the spot. To blame us for killing the reefs of the world is like saying a pebble collector is destroying the Rocky Mountains
There major flaw is the over the top way of villionising the hobby, as thou we where placing life in our tanks to die. "ask yourself; Is all this killing for money right?" this is my favorite line. I wasn’t aware that dead fish had much of a market in the reef community. Oh well I bet All Gore will listen to them
 
#29
dont fool yourself into thinking we have that much inpact on out planet it has servived a hell of a lot in the billions of yoers its been around. if we have only explored les than 5% of our oceans how could we be "raping" our coral reefs most of them have never even been seen by man
 
#30
I suggest you read up on exponential growth. Im not implying that we are killing the reefs by removing the individual corals at all. Im saying that what it takes to keep
7 billion people housed and feed along with everything else is killing the reefs. For one example, where do you think the herbicides/pesticides end up. I promise you they dont stay on the crops so you can wash it down your sink just to be put back in the water system.
 

Mini T

Sting ray
M.A.S.C Club Member
#31
drtymnky;111188 said:
dont fool yourself into thinking we have that much inpact on out planet it has servived a hell of a lot in the billions of yoers its been around. if we have only explored les than 5% of our oceans how could we be "raping" our coral reefs most of them have never even been seen by man
Really? Most coral reefs are yet be discovered?
 

Dr.DiSilicate

Great White Shark
M.A.S.C Club Member
ex-officio
#32
drtymnky;111188 said:
dont fool yourself into thinking we have that much inpact on out planet it has servived a hell of a lot in the billions of yoers its been around. if we have only explored les than 5% of our oceans how could we be "raping" our coral reefs most of them have never even been seen by man
You need to read more. Foolish comment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
#33
omg you have no idea how large the planet is if you think we have seen it all in our reefs. the great barrier reef is 1600 miles long and 133,000 square miles it comprises about 3000 seprate reef systems thats jest the great most of what we put in out tanks if frome the fiji group which has coral atols from australia to easter island think we seen it all hu?

the oceans hold 343,668,428,484,681,262 gallons of water or 343 million trillion gallons of water
now lets see if you take the pestasides that make it into that volume(which are generaly natural acuring in nature anyhow and dilute harmlesly in small amounts of water)the impact on our oceans are nothing we have more to worry about fish pee
 

Mini T

Sting ray
M.A.S.C Club Member
#34
drtymnky;111441 said:
omg you have no idea how large the planet is if you think we have seen it all in our reefs. the great barrier reef is 1600 miles long and 133,000 square miles it comprises about 3000 seprate reef systems thats jest the great most of what we put in out tanks if frome the fiji group which has coral atols from australia to easter island think we seen it all hu?

the oceans hold 343,668,428,484,681,262 gallons of water or 343 million trillion gallons of water
now lets see if you take the pestasides that make it into that volume(which are generaly natural acuring in nature anyhow and dilute harmlesly in small amounts of water)the impact on our oceans are nothing we have more to worry about fish pee
So most pesticides, herbicides and fertilizers used today are naturally occurring and have no effect on the ocean?
 

Wicked Color

Tiger Shark
M.A.S.C Club Member
#35
Any negative impact no matter how small is still negative, just because this industry does less damage than others does not justify the way harvesting is done.
 
#36
Here is some food for thought. In the 1970's the peregrine falcon was on the endangered species list and was disappearing from many areas. It was actually falconers, who had once taken chicks out of the wild, that brought the species back. Initially people blamed the falconers for the decline of the species but it was later discovered to be due to DDT ( a pesticide). In that hobby, like ours, the method of taking chicks from the wild was very controversial. However, had these captive individuals not been available to rejuvenate the population there is a decent possibility that no individuals would remain today. I see taking coral out of the wild much the same way. In a decently healthy coral reef system, a diver taking as much as they can will have a small immediate effect but very very little long term effect. The fact that the species then has a chance to end up being preserved in the aquarium hobby and potentially then restocking depleted areas is a benefit that far outweighs the cost. This hobby will likely play a key role in the future of coral reefs. Thus, I believe that even though harvesting techniques can be questionable, the small amount of damage done is an acceptable cost to the potential benefit
 
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Mini T

Sting ray
M.A.S.C Club Member
#39
Releasing captive animals back into the wild can have a seriously negative effect on indigenous species due to the spread of diseases not found in the wild from the captive animals.
 
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