You mean like to wrench alot. Gotta 02' Kia Rio would like to throw away or sell, do not know what my wife thinks yet it was her very own first car. 33-36 mpg, heavily aged and drove threw some bob wire heading out to the rig last winter. I would probably sell it $600, and I would not take half, Don. LOL. Anyway runs great, new motor 20k miles ago, a/c does not work $130 fix, needs new CV shaft seals to tranny, Does not look very good so if you want looks this isn't it. Oh a Kia is definately no panty dropper.