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Breeding journal: Pterapogon kauderni

Discussion in 'Breeding Journals' started by Ummfish, Sep 22, 2010.

  1. Ummfish

    Ummfish Tuna M.A.S.C Club Member

    Breeding Journal DataSheet
    This first post should be updated regularly to include new information as events take place or changes are made to your system

    General
    Species: Pterapogon kauderni
    Social Structure: Pairs
    Size of Individuals: Large adults, ~4-5"
    Age of Individuals: Unknown, they were out of a tank maintenance account, and had been in that tank for three years.
    Date added to Tank: May 15 2008

    Broodstock Tank Details
    Size of Tank: 2 100 gal. horse water troughs, plumbed together
    Substrate Details: sand
    Filtration Details: none
    Water Changes: Not a lot
    Water Temperature: Variable, tank gets some sunlight
    Lighting: One metal halide per trough, plus some sun
    Lighting Cycle: 12 hours on/off
    Other Tank Inhabitants: b&w clowns

    Broodstock Feeding Details
    Food Types: Various frozen, flake, freeze-dried
    Feeding Schedule: 2x/day

    Spawning Details
    Date of First Spawn: unknown
    Spawn Time of Day: unknown
    Dates of Consecutive Spawns: unknown
    Courtship Details: un-witnessed
    Egg Size: unknown
    Egg Color: orange
    Egg Count: unknown

    Hatch Details
    Hatch Date: July 15, 2008
    Hatch Time of Day: unknown
    # Days after Spawn: unknown
    Larvae Description: small banggais, much more see-through


    Larval Tank Details
    Temperature: same as adults
    Size of Larval Tank: same as adults
    Substrate Details: same as adults
    Other Tank Decor: same as adults
    Filtration Details: same as adults
    Lighting: same as adults
    Lighting Cycle: same as adults
    Water Changes: same as adults

    Larval Feeding Details
    Food Types: same as adults, lots of freeze-dried and frozen cyclopeeze
    Feeding Schedule: same as adults

    Metamorphosis/Settlement
    Date of Settlement Start: July 15, 2008
    Days after Hatch: 0
    Date of Settlement End: July 15, 2008
    Description of Fry: small adults

    Grow-Out Tank Details
    Temperature: same as adults
    Size of Grow-Out Tank: same as adults
    Substrate Details: same as adults
    Other Tank Decor: same as adults
    Filtration Details: same as adults
    Lighting: same as adults
    Lighting Cycle: same as adults
    Water Changes: same as adults
    Size at Transfer: N/A
    Age at Transfer: N/A

    Grow-Out Feeding Details
    Food Types: same as adults, lots of freeze-dried and frozen cyclopeeze
    Feeding Schedule: same as adults

    Additional Information
    Miscellaneous Information: Basically, I saw a good deal on a pair of aged Banggais. I picked them up, placing them in a holding tank during my re-model. The pair surprised me with a bunch of babies. I had literally no room to pull the babies to raise them and no room for any sort of food cultures, so the babies stayed in the tank with the adults and ate what the adults ate, supplemented by the plankton floating in the tank. About 8 or so babies made it to adulthood and are now breeding themselves, though they have not yet held to term. The large male father to them is still alive.



    You will be required to provide photographic evidence in this thread of each event submitted for the MBI Program.
    If your thread does not contain these photos the MBI Committee will not be able to approve your reports.
     
  2. Ummfish

    Ummfish Tuna M.A.S.C Club Member

  3. Ummfish

    Ummfish Tuna M.A.S.C Club Member

    Day 44:

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    Day 83:

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    Day 109:

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  4. Ummfish

    Ummfish Tuna M.A.S.C Club Member

    By the way, I don't have _any_ photos of that male with eggs, but here's another one of my males in 2009.

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  5. hurrafreak

    hurrafreak Orca M.A.S.C Club Member

    Andy these guys are way cool looking!!!! You are awesome at keeping track of everything!!
     
  6. Ummfish

    Ummfish Tuna M.A.S.C Club Member

    Thanks! I need to go back and make up these threads for all the old things I have evidence for. Because there are other clubs out there talking smack about MASC. Matt claims that his club is going to get way more MBI points this year than we are.

    So, we need to full-on show him up. Honestly, we have a big club. I think if we all put up these journal threads then we could easily take Matt down.
     
  7. hoodrat

    hoodrat Sardine M.A.S.C Club Member

    Oh no he didn't........lol Guess I need to step it up on getting rid of the corals so I can get the breeding station setup
     
  8. hurrafreak

    hurrafreak Orca M.A.S.C Club Member

    Where is all the smack talk going down!!! Tell him to come say it on our forums!!!!!!!!!!
     
  9. hurrafreak

    hurrafreak Orca M.A.S.C Club Member

    OH and we need to convince Joe to represent OUR MASC forums!!!!!
     
  10. WrasseAttack

    WrasseAttack Amphipod

    Is there an easy way to sex Cardinals? I have a single that I would love to pair up and join you guys in breeding.
     
  11. Zooid

    Zooid Shark M.A.S.C Club Member

    Is Matt the only one in his club? lol
    hmmmm guess I shoulda held off reporting until MASC was involved hehe.
     
  12. hurrafreak

    hurrafreak Orca M.A.S.C Club Member

    Until MASC is involved??
     
  13. Zooid

    Zooid Shark M.A.S.C Club Member

    What I meant was that all the points that I've accumulated apply to mbisite since that's where I filled out the journals. If I would have waited, I could've filled out the journals here and the points would have been applied toward MASC's total.
     
  14. Ummfish

    Ummfish Tuna M.A.S.C Club Member

    From here: http://www.mbisite.org/Forums/tm.aspx?m=43972

    Yeah, I think SCMAS is also applying to get into the MBI, so I think Joe's loyalties are going to be tested. I repeat, though: We can take them.

    @WrasseAttack: No easy way with the Banggais, unfortunately. I have a great big proven male, though. He certainly can tell the difference. So, we could work out testing if you want to.
     
  15. hurrafreak

    hurrafreak Orca M.A.S.C Club Member

    Well I guess the guantlet has been laid huh!!!

    I sent Joe(awesome guy BTW lol) a PM seeing if he'll join the MASC team!?
     
  16. Mantid

    Mantid Tuna M.A.S.C Club Member

    Andy are you representing MASC in the point system. It says MASC has points and you have 600.
     
  17. Ummfish

    Ummfish Tuna M.A.S.C Club Member

    I am, but several of my first threads were over on MBI before MASC joined up. So the points from over there go to MBI, I'm afraid. That's okay, I'll be doing some more spawning reports coming up. The cleaner wrasses ought to get MASC some points. :)
     
  18. Mantid

    Mantid Tuna M.A.S.C Club Member

    Heck yeah!
     
  19. Ummfish

    Ummfish Tuna M.A.S.C Club Member

    Hey! I'm psyched! The little Banggai popped out again after being MIA for a few weeks. This time, he's finally big enough to share a meal with the folks.

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    Given that this is graduation weekend and lots of CU students are out sharing uncomfortable meals with _their_ parents, I thought the dinner conversation might have gone something like this:

    Banggai son: "Mom, Dad, since we're all here, there's something I've been meaning to talk about. I've made a breakthrough in my therapy...."

    Dad: "Mmmphhh...."

    Son: "Dad, you know I can't understand you when your mouth is full." [Ed. note: With a new mouthful of eggs! :) ]

    Mom: "What was your breakthrough, son?"

    Son: "Well, it's all still a little hazy, but I have this one memory from my childhood. It was of you guys. Trying to EAT me."

    Mom: "Son, don't think of it so negatively. Look at it this way: It means you were much, much quicker than your siblings."

    Son: "I had siblings?!?! Mom, I can't believe this...."
     
  20. Zooid

    Zooid Shark M.A.S.C Club Member

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