Metal halide

jda123

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#23
It depends. Radium 20k is more like a 14k than most 20k bulbs are. Phoenix 14K and Radium 20k are VERY similar IMO. Some 20k look like windex and some have crisp white water with lots of pop. I would caution you to think of K ratings as more of a suggestion than an absolute. :)

Generally speaking, the lower K the light (closer to sunlight at about 5500-6500k), the better growth and actual colors will be rendered in the coral. ...but those low K bulbs are terrible at illumination. This is why people swear that their 6500k Halide with VHO Super Actinics was the best color ever - great at rendering with the daylight and also great illumination with the Super Actinics. 14 and 20k bulbs are a compromise. They can both color and illuminate in one package, but the growth is a bit slower and some of the pinks and reds are not as good with 20k as they are with 14k. There are bulbs like 10k and 12.5k that are more of a crisp white without too much blue, but they really do pop coral.

While we are on Halides, there is k and there is K. k means thousands... like in 6.5k bulb meaning 6500. K is for Kelvin or the temperature/color of the bulb. Most people mix them up, but if you are reading specs and articles, it might matter. Technically, a 6.5kK bulb is right - 6.5 thousand Kelvin... but people usually only use one K. :)
 

jda123

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#25
No punishment. Even a 20k Halide will outgrow 8 bulb T5 setups and every LED on the market. Even if 6500k will have faster growth, growth is not everything... enjoying your stuff is better. Besides, it sucks to butcher colonies when they are growing together, so I like to keep this as slow as I can. Even under 14k lighting, I can fill a tank with 3/4 inch acropora frags and in three years have wall to wall colonies.

The new Hamilton 20k was modeled after the 20k Radium, but to run on non-HQI ballasts. It should have a very similar look, but lower output since it is driven at 250w with ANSI m58 or Electronic ballast instead of at 330w with m80 ballast.

Like I said, if you want to stop by, I have a bunch that we can look at. I saw that Elite has some MH back on their tanks too... not sure how long that has been, but they look nice.
 

scchase

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#31
At almost 6 months in I am really liking my 20k Ushios probably my favorite 400wt bulb so far over Radiums and others
 

Andrew_bram

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#33
Thanks for the Insight Doug. I placed that 250 over the tank and the spread was definitely there might need to test par on that little guy.

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TheRealChrisBrown

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#38
Patience! You are fine for now with what you have. Borrow my par meter and decide then. My guess is that you’ll want a larger reflector.
I was pretty surprised as well at how well it covered his tank when he shut off the LED's...although it looked like pretty white spectrum. Coverage looked wall to wall at about 7 or 8 inches above the water.
 

Andrew_bram

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#39
I am thinking canyon sun m80 ballast and 250 over driven radium bulb. With 2 led strips just to blue it up a little.

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jda123

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#40
m80 is spec for 250w Radium... it is not overdriven on them which is why it lasts 12 months (or more for some). m80 is worth the wait - this is a gold-standard reefing light.
 
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